It was first broadcast in 1978 on a public access television channel in Austin, Texas. Mr. WILCOTT - It is a little bit east of Oakland, California. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was your response to this revelatic as to what Oswald's cryptonym was? His father lost weight and developed a stoop in the way he stood and walked; his hair and facial features aged prematurely. She confided this information to Mrs. Bergin and told her that she had a copy of the First Ladys dress, pink in color with the black velvet collar. From about January of 1960 to about June of 1960, I was transferred to Finance Field Payroll, also, in this same building, on the Potomac. Mr. WILCOTT - Not the files, no. Since a cubic foot of books is about 25 to 30 pounds, a box such as this, when loaded with books, would have weighed around 375 to 450 poundstoo heavy to manage with a handcart. The largest typical box for books measured 12 x 14 x 18 inches, was made out of cardboard, and when filled with books weighed 55 pounds. Mr. WILCOTT - The first time I heard about Oswald being connected in any way with CIA was the day after the Kennedy assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. [12], A suggestion of smuggling activities within the TSBD comes in the form of boxes too large to be practical containers of books. Mr. WILCOTT - No; I know for a fact, or I know from hearsay, and I believe it to be true from the circumstances how this conversation came up and so on. Garner went on to say that at the same time, around 1969, William Shelley quit the book depository and began working for Scott Foresman. Mr. WILCOTT - I left the agency in April of 1966 for the Miami Station. There is a very large spider guarding this web of secrecy. They told me that I had passed both of those. I . (At this time the school book depository had been relocated to a warehouse near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35.). Something went wrong. I talked to reporters from various papers, and I talked to people in other forms of meetings, and to me it is not surprising at all. Wilcott's Full HSCA Testimony EXECUTIVE SESSION ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I was on day duty for the station. (Whereupon, a recess was taken while the members of I the Committee went to the floor of the House for a vote.) Having a double life would not have made Shelley unique among the people who worked at the book depository. James B. Wilcott worked for the CIA from May of 1957 to April of 1966. The specific incident was soon after the Kennedy assassination, where an agent, a Case Officer -- I am sure it was a Case Officer -- came up to my window to draw money, and he specifically said in the conversation that ensued, he specifically said, "Well, Jim, the money that I drew the last couple of weeks ago or so was money," either Copies of my written testimony have disappeared from my personal files. One of said employees, her husband, and child, disappeared without a trace a few hours after granting me an interview. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When was that? that I had at my gate, and I did that with cryptonyms from time to time for something -- we would want to check back into their accounting for something. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, does that mean you were able to check back only thirty days from the time that you were given this information? 25-26. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you ever actually Xerox records being destroyed or changed? As many JFK researchers know, James Wilcott was a CIA accountant from May 1957 through April 1966. Mr. DODD - Just one second, then. These companies were part of a complex system involving: (a) the state legislature, which purchased textbooks through a process called adoption, (b) the publishers, who were responsible for maintaining sufficient reserves, (c) the book depositories, which received the books, stored them, and shipped them out as needed to schools around the state. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasions? I asked her if the new building was near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35, and she said yes, on Gemini Lane. Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? There was a problem loading your book clubs. You mentioned the day after the assassination you talked to someone at the station about it. [5] Interviews of Ted Leon and Thomas H. Butler. Mr. WILCOTT - I was recruited from the school in Syracuse New York, where I was taking a course in accounting and busi- ness administration. Mr. WILCOTT - George Breen was a person in Registry, who was my closest friend while I was in XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. I was really scared to go to the Government and talk about any of these things. Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was their response? Mr. DODD - In. ", and they might look it over and retype the accounting for funds for their project and, you know, make changes that they might think were in their interest to do. His tires were slashed and sugar was poured into his gas tank. Reminder warnings were given on an individual or a small group basis. Your interest in the work of our Committee is appreciated. The incident occurred in about 1969. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that opinion? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. As you can well imagine, she was quite confused because the job was low-paying and involved minor duties. He enjoyed giving to others, and loved the companionship of his four dogs. There is a very large spider guarding this web of secrecy. Admittedly, there is no record of Shelleys arrest, but that does not necessarily mean Glaze was wrong. I was scared until the Carter Administration. Wilcott lost a good job after leaving the CIA after his employer was told he would soon be under incitement when he wasnt and never was. Governor John Connally and his wife, Nellie, sat in front of them. Wilcott swore in a secret session Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. Mr. WILCOTT - XXXXXXXXXXXXX (spelling). [8] Jim Marrs, Crossfire (Carroll & Graf. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. as members of the F.B.I., approached the two new employees at work & took them to an empty room inside the building. Well, they would go through the files and take out anything that they thought was, say, indicative of how this flap occurred and change the files. JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report. His mother was a strong, confident woman before the assassination, but afterwards she suffered a complete breakdown in her health and had to be hospitalized. There was talk about it going on at the station, and several months following at the station. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? For example, Joes father had to clear visitors with Roy Truly, the building manager, even though they were top executives from the company headquarters in Chicago. Mr. WILCOTT - They were maintained on a thirty-day basis, and then they were closed off at the end of the month. The owner of the establishment, rightwing oil man, D. H. Byrd would have had little problem approving that kind of clearance. "I was standing on the triple underpass at the time and was wounded by a fragment that bounced off the pavement," Tague, now 77, told ABC News. Was there something more to this move than meets the eye? Mr. WILCOTT - I believe that Oswald was a double agent, was sent over to the Soviet Union to do intelligence work, that the defection was phoney and it was set up and that I believe that Marina Oswald was an agent that had been recruited sometime before and was waiting their in Tokyo for Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose, Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it never really came forward for you to go to the Warren Commission, did it? I have no further questions. Mr. DODD - And she was aware of it from 1964 up until 1968 -- Mr. WILCOTT - The "need-to-know" principle was not all that we followed, and just about every one of the big projects that the agency was involved in, information leaked out, and we especially within the CIA knew about it, and someone would go to a party and have a little bit too much to drink and start saying things that they really shouldn't be saying to keep in mind what the "need-to-know" principle was. Of all times to break down, my typewriter chose tonight to do it. 359-360, 386-387. This was just prior to moving to Langley, in finance, and my duties there were policing accounts, and included auditing of special accounts. He kept his pocket calendars from his years of employment, and he noted when the grocery company moved out of the building to a new facility in another part of Dallas. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for The Poison Patriarch : How the Betrayals of Joseph P. Kennedy Caused the. ", That was the kind of things that people said. Afterwards, she, her husband, and their child quickly disappeared. Towards the end of my tour of duty, I heard certain things about Oswald somehow being connected with the agency, and I didn't really believe this when I heard it, and I thought it was absurd. From June of 1964 to about December of 1964, I was at Roseland. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, would any records at CIA Headquarters document that Oswald was a CIA agent? Upon exiting the elevator, he saw a short hallway. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. The fact that he went and got his gun afterwards and then walked to the Texas Theater, perhaps to meet with someone, this suggests that he had some kind of agenda to fulfill. One man had blonde or light-brown hair, wore a white shirt, and was armed with a rifle. XXXXXXXXXXXXX. I spoke to groups in their homes and I spoke to groups in the Peace and Freedom Party and I was with the Peace and Freedom Party for several years. Occupation of the building during the summer of 1963 could be a first step in a planning stage. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And when you testified earlier that you learned Oswald's cryptonym, by that do you mean that you learned both Oswald's personal cryptonym and his project cryptonym, or was it one of the two? Mr. DODD - I am just a little confused, I guess, over your reaction. [23], The man using the pay phone was Shelley, for in an affidavit made out that same afternoon, he said, "I went back into the building [from outside where he viewed the shooting of the president] and went inside and called my wife and told her what happened. We will. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Only of Case Officers. 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