Or they pulled out the pump, went to lunch, and let the fuel smell marinate the interior. Definitely a possibilityit was nice out today and breezy, so I opened the windows all the way in the drive way for several hours and that seems to have helped quite a bit. Ascent, Forester, Impreza, Outback, other vehicles are included. 2013, 20 degrees out. Jan 29, 2017. When I picked up the car, I had a strong gasoline smell in the car which I hoped would be short-term. I think I had just over a quarter of a tank of gas For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It can be challenging to determine where the smell of gas is coming from in a vehicle. If this is the case, it can make its way up into your Tribecas cabin. Replacing the fuel pressure regulator is the cure for this problem. The cars recalled include Subaru Outback wagons manufactured between June 29, 2018 and Feb. 19, 2019. Let is sit for a little time. thanks for all of your posts repair thoughts. Why not list what was done? Now which is at fault, the fuel pump or its controller? Yea, that smell of raw fuel in the cabin is exactly that. Tightened those and it seems to have taken care of the problem. Great info. I think the guys are missing a bigger problem under what is obvious, and being a girl, I need an old school motor-city thinkers help.. 2 fuel-related problems in last 8 weeks and recall in the middle: 1. A faulty fuel pump is the cause. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 2019 Assent Premium 8-Passenger Crimson Red Pearl with Ivory Interior, Convenience Package and Popular Package #2, 2019 CRP Ascent Limited w/#23 Built July 2018. How do we ensure that changing the hose is going to make a difference permanently? Bring the vehicle in near empty. The factory clamps only get so-so tight. Consistent with other posts, they said they pull the back seat out and go down into the tank through an access panel. We are back into the deep freeze once again, and as of yesterday I now have a horribly strong smell of gasoline in the car (the first time ever). When I took it to the dealer he advised me they would have to drop the fuel tank to do repairs. I have a 2004 forester xt. With the recent cold (-12 today here in Colorado Springs), I noticed twice this week the STRONG fuel smell driving into work. FordMan1959 April 4, 2012, 12:56am #2. The Honda people made it almost disappear. Fuel then runs down side of tank onto the exhaust. All fuel lines would include the ones at the tank and that run through the body, which would be substantially more than $700 anywhere. You may also notice black smoke coming from the tailpipe. Ive been surfing the web and this Subaru fuel leak seems to be the norm. James H. Thank you very much for the info! It takes about 15 minutes to resolve once your are set up correctly with the right tools. WebTakata Airbag Inflator Recall Subaru is committed to the safety and protection of our drivers and the ones they love. I started the car, let it run for ~5 min, and the wet rubber hose was pretty easy to spot. then when he gets the car to me I will replace the hoses and clamps. Had the same exact issue when I took mine in. One interesting note: when I called to make the appointment, it seemed like I got routed into some central call center that wasn't the actual dealer. I think the odor thing is very dependent on the service team and fuel level, honestly. Yes if the fuel leak is in fact one of the lines under the intake manifold it would require removal of the intake manifold to resolve. Subaru says it is unaware of any crashes or injuries related to this issue. The pump is under the back seat. The group claims Subarus produced between 2013 and 2019 suffer the same defects as the 2019 recalled vehicles and should have been included in the recall. The issues isnt the lines need to be replaced its that due to ownership cost reports 1/2 of what one will pay for over 300,000 miles is clearly left out by all manufactures. Just my opinion. I have the service manual but cannot find a step by step on replacement. We learned while we were there they have to take out the back seats to be able to access the fuel pump. Looking at what you've said you're mods are, that shouldn't be the issue though. I aired the car out today for several hours since it was nice and breezy and that seems to have helped a lot. I'm nearly 100% certain this is the case for the Ascent as well. Part of the evaporative emissions system self check is a tiny compressor that pressurizes the fuel tank after the car has been off for about 4 hours. Unfortunately, I cant come to your shop, as I am in Quebec. What should I tell my dealer to do (not always up to date like you are). The smells happens with the climate control in any position except off!! JavaScript is disabled. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The plastic on top of the fuel pump cracks with age causing a fuel leak. But honestly this is kind of BS, I do a lot of driving for work to locations/distances I have no control over and trying to manage fuel levels/distances for a recall maintenance item is not exactly practical for me without constantly stopping for gas. Justin, this is a great thread. Only had a very slight fuel smell but soon went away. I have been reading all these blogs and have tightened clamps and I lifted the access compartment in my 99 legacy outback and I see or smell no gas on top of the tank Is there anything else or tricky spots that could be leaky????? All Wheel Drive Auto LLC. Ive been breathing in noxious fumes for 3 winters now. Click Accept if you consent. The smell should be coming from the engine, but not until it warms up. A burning rubber smell is almost always, in fact, burning rubber. Not enough cars are affected For Subaru to issue a recall, and same goes for class action. Thanks, Your email address will not be published. WebIf you still wonder about the Subaru fuel pump symptoms, then here are nine things to be aware of; read on! An auto shop ought to have a means of evacuating gas from a gas tank temporarily. This was my first Subaru and probably my last. Subaru has also issued a recall affecting nearly 49,000 For those that have not done the recall try to run as much gas out of the tank as you can when you take it in. The seal for either Fuel pump or secondary fuel level sending unit to the fuel tank may be leaking. Not sure if they did because the smell is still pretty strong. The next day I smelled gas in the 2nd I had the fuel pump replaced in my 2019 Highlander, as part of the recall, 9 days ago. Most fuel pumps will produce a quiet hum during their normal operation, however, an excessively loud whine coming from the fuel tank is usually a sign of a problem. Subaru issued the recall for 188,207 of its 2019 model year vehicles in April over fuel pump problems that a report by Car and Driver said can increase the risk of drivers crashing while the cars are in motion. I got it back pretty well detailed on the inside much cleaner than I ever get it. If a fuel injector is leaking, it will allow too much fuel to dump into the engine. Seems like exaxctly the problem that people were getting on their early Bugeye WRX's and what Subaru did the recall on for '02-'03 cars. Fills the garage with dangerous gas fumes when car is parked inside. Please help with suggestions. 2004 Legacy wagon with 153,000 miles. The 2.5 inch hose (Part Number: 807707130 ; 16630AA692; 16630AA700; 807707090; 807707120) bridges a .75 inch gap between two metal tubes (One tube comes from the fuel pipe-Left, the other comes from pipes that connect to the fuel pipe-Right). I went to pick it up the following day and saw they had cracked the windows, but the smell is pretty strong and is lingering today still. Bluish smoke is not good, is it also using oil? Had my recall completed 7/7 and took about 5 hours due to work backlog but wasn't a problem because I had a loaner car. The typical place we see on the Turbo models such as the 2005 XT is one of the fuel lines under the intake manifold. I live in NJ and it is hard for me to get to him and try to fix the problem, he needs to drive the car to me, hopefully the weather will warm up and the leak will stop long enough for him to drive the car to me. In the shop we see a few every winter for some minor fuel line related smells most repaired for under $100, and a few from the East coast with rusted away fuel filler tubes (Which actually occurs because the owner never cleans the debris out of the inner fender liners after the season) the mud holds moisture and rots the pipe away slowly over time. Your Subaru Will Struggle To Start Its Engine. What we have had to do was turn the screw with a pair of pliers( backwards) .. Unexpected stalling, while the vehicle is in motion and failure to restart, puts the driver at risk and could cause an accident. The fix: Subaru dealers will replace the faulty fuel pump with a redesigned one, free of charge, beginning June 5, 2020. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://reddit.com/r/hondainsight/comments/gwv18z/what_we_know_the_fuel_pump_recall_check_here/. Went to Subaru dealer. usually smells out the car on a cold morning especially when air conditioning is on during the day you can usually smell fuel on the outside of the car also many thanks. I said, no thanks. The clamp is upside down meaning you cant put a tool ( Phillips) on it to tighten it. Is this typical of all Subaru dealerships? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Top Class Actions is a Proud Member of the American Bar Association, Various Trademarks held by their respective owners. Actions does not process claims and we cannot advise you on the As the leak location is at the top of the tank fuel leaking is highly unlikely while driving, most likely you'll get a gas smell while refueling. I want an excuse to take it back and get it cleaned again. I missed the one up by the power steering pump. They may also contact Subaru customer service at 844-373-6614. So after searching, it seems that I either need to A) tighten the fuel line clamps on the passenger side, or B) replace the rubber fuel lines. Dealer looked at it a few years ago and tightened clamps and it sort of was fixed but seemed like it still was a problem. The first pertains to the 2002 to 2003 Subaru Impreza WRX, Subaru first had a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) and updated fuel line components and then a full fledgedrecallto address the leak, but if you bought your WRX used you may beunaware of the Recall. A cars fuel pump moves the fuel from the cars gas tank to the engine. BTW, I went to the dealer hoping the issue would be covered under warranty they said no, it is not. Heres a video on how to use a fuel pressure regulator with a pressure gauge, and heres one that uses a diagnostic scanner to actually look at whats going on in the engine. When I come to think of it, this has been going on for a few years now. Our 01 Legacy started leaking fuel couple days ago, and the culprit was the rubber line on the passenger side, behind that bracket. The company expects notices to start mailing out on June 5. It is sad that Subaru wont man up to this problem. One of the best ways to determine if you have a fuel leak is to observe the fuel economy. If gas fumes are related to a gas cap or any other thing allowing fuel vapor out of the fuel system it would cause a CEL to come on. 2005 Subaru Outback 3.0 R L.L. towed to local dealer not my guy. Next job is to replace a fuel hose that leaks when below 20F. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. If your townhouse was built according to building codes then you'd be fine. After driving, there is a gas odor near the passenger rear tire. To my knowledge there have been no deaths as a result of a fuel leak on a 2004 Forester XT, there is also no recall or campaign that I am aware of. Where OC is the standard and boxer engines rule the world. If you smell gas right away after the recall it could be that they spilled some gas. The rubber fuel lines are in extreme conditions, subject to heat and fuel which depending on what type of fuel is used can affect how long the line lasts. I'm guessing here but think this may depend on the quality of workmanship and the dealership. Reading the posts looks like dealerships dont cover so guess we will take to our neighborhood mechanic. You will most likely find the cause of the gas odor. It kinda infuriates me the longer I think about it, actually. After my fuel pump recall three weeks ago, I had no gas smell whatsoever inside, which is what I would expect. Gas dries fast, which adds to the problem. If its truly under the intake, does that mean I have to remove the intake to get at it? If you own a Subaru or Honda manufactured between 2013 and 2019 and have experienced engine problems such as reduced engine power, stalling, and/or engine shutdown due to a faulty fuel pump, you may qualify to join this investigation. Is there something the should be doing that they have not done as this is not a new issue. that reports on class action lawsuits, class action settlements, https://topclassactions.com/wp-admin/admin-ajax.php. But yesterday it started smelling again. A Subaru spokesman told CR that there have been no crashes or injuries related to this recall. Since you did not smell the gas when you picked it up it sounds like they did not It is now Sept. and I finally took it to my dealer. This is definitely a design defect that Subaru has know about for over 12 years. They wanted to keep it overnight and evaluate it the next day. But 2020 RDX is included in the larger recall. I had this work done on Tuesday morning (7/7). butif the car was leaking gas over the long weekend before the dealer looked (seriously?) If engaging the recirc doesnt change this, has any one verified the function of the blend door and or controls? I hope everyone who has a Subaru with a leak posts a comment. Drivers who lodged the other eight complaints said their cars either lost power while they were driving them at low speeds or just after starting the cars. Searched The Google and saw references to tightening clamps. Another driver report filed later from outside the U.S. where the engine lost power while driving at highway speeds. WebThe combined vehicle count for both recalls totals 157,388 and as of January 2018, some 29.5 percent had been repaired. You mentioned smoke testing from the engine compartment, I have no idea why? A total of 188,207 vehicles were affected by the fuel pump problems recall in the U.S. Another 13,744 of Subarus cars manufactured in 2019 were recalled in Canada, CarComplaints said. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I didnt have a lot of time last night AND it was like 0 degrees. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I have a couple of quick comments to add to this forum. 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